You have a dream inside of you. Or maybe it’s a passion from something that you feel compelled to do every day. But life happens and you haven’t made on progress with pursuing your dreams or passions.
Why? Is it because you’re too busy? Or maybe it is because the kids need your attention?
Whatever the case is, you can do hard things. You are more than capable of being an awesome mom while you pursue your dreams and passions. Listen to Sloane.
In this episode Sloane talks about:
- What it means to pursue your dreams when you become a mom
- How she made a promise that she wasn’t going to give up on her dreams and at the same time she gave birth to guilt
- The number one thing that prevents moms from pursuing their calling or passion
- The number one thing to do if you are in the messy part of your journey of pursuing your calling or passion
- Why you need to be celebrating the small wins
- Why you need to belong somewhere and find your people
- Why your kids are not an excuse for you to pursue your dreams but what they are instead
- Why you don’t have to choose between your passion and your kids
About Sloane Ketcham
Sloane is the founder of Speak Life International, a non-profit, whose mission is to help women and young girls change the world one story at a time through education, entrepreneurship, and empowerment scholarships and also best-selling author of Beautiful Girl, You Can Do Hard Things.
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Links Mentioned in This Episode
- Book – Beautiful Girl, You Can Do Hard Things: How To Turn Your Pain Into Purpose To Courageously Pursue The Calling On Your Life
- Website: https://sloaneketcham.com
- Instagram: @mssloanekini
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Hey there, Mom, are you juggling all the things in motherhood for managing your time getting healthy meals on the table, to being a present life, all while making yourself a priority without feeling guilty? I get it. It’s overwhelming. And guess what? The fact that you need support doesn’t make you a bad mom. And that’s why I created the Real Happy Mom podcast. I’m Tonia, a wife and a mom of two little boys as well as a general dentist and in service in the Navy. And I get it when it comes to being a busy working mom. On the Real Happy Mom podcast. Interview row moms to chat about real life experiences. These guests and experts will help you to navigate the motherhood journey by providing answers to your questions and concerns surrounding raising children, self care time management, and so much more. So if you’re ready to get rid of the overwhelm, and start being a Real Happy Mom, join me inside the rat Happy Mom podcast. And we are back for another episode of the Real Happy Mom. s this is episode number 106. And today, I will be talking to Sloane all about these things when it comes to pursuing our dreams and our passions. Now, moms, I know that you have some things inside of you that are very deep down in there that you would like to pursue, whether it be your passion or your calling. And there may be some things that are preventing you from doing that. Now in this episode, as soon is going to be helping us out by talking about what it actually means to pursue our dreams when we become a mom, and how she made a promise to her son that she wasn’t going to give up on her dreams. When she gave birth to her son at 16 years old. She talks about her journey from having a cleaning business to go into the passion business. And the number one thing that is preventing moms from pursuing their calling or their passion. Now she talks about celebrating the small wins and why it’s so important to remind yourself to be a part of a community where you belong and are with your people, and why your kids are not an excuse for you that you’re not pursuing your dreams. And instead, they’re actually the fuel or the catapult that are going to help you to reach those dreams and goals. And then lastly, she talks about why we don’t have to choose between our passion and our kids, and how we can have them both. Now as soon it does get a little bit of tough love. But I promise you, this is definitely what you need. If you are in a crisis where you’re feeling like you can pursue your dreams or you’re calling or you’re feeling something tied to you but you’re there, you know talking yourself out of it. So make sure you stay tuned to the full episode, because this is a really really good one. And I promise you, you’ll love them once you’re done listening to her. Now I wanted to let you know that the Real Happy Mom podcasts are also want to let you know about the Real Happy Mom, we’re gonna want to let you know about
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Oh, good to be here. So excited.
Real Happy Mom 4:14
Yes. And I’m excited to talk to you just because you bring a different story in perspective that I think will help us moms out. But before we jump into our topic into your story, I just wanted you to share a little bit about you and your business.
Yeah, for sure. Um, I am from Hawaii, small little island in the middle of the Pacific Ocean. I have been an entrepreneur speaker and a coach for women primarily who are wanting to build their thing wanting to start their purpose or passion. You know, some people call it a side hustle. Some people want to transition some women want to really transition into pursuing the calling on their life. So what I really help women to do is create a plan and a system that’s going to help them to do all the things, all the things and still maintain, you know, a life that but allows them to be at home with their kids and, and, and all of that wonderfulness. Um, but I want to just brace like you might hear a pause and in my voice Tony on because what I want to really say too is that what what we believe in what I believe in is that there really is no such thing as balance like that. It’s all a little out of whack. So what our tribe does is, is come together and says, Yeah, we want to pursue the calling on our lives, but it’s okay to be messy. It’s okay that it’s a mess. And so we can start with that truth. It’s okay for it to be messy.
Real Happy Mom 5:55
Yeah, yes, yes. And I love how you kind of set me up here because you are doing some amazing things. As far as helping women with building their side hustle, they’re finding their purpose and all of that. But you didn’t always do this. And I loved the beginning, where you shared your story with me. So I just want you to share with our audience how you started and got to this now.
Okay, I love But yeah, you know, what is funny is I just before we got on this, this podcast, friends, I was telling Tony, I was running a little late because I actually was on the phone with my oldest son, who is in California who’s having a little bit of a, we need to have a mom, mom and mom and son conversation. So he’s 22 years old. If you saw me right now, you’d be like, you’d look 22 your cell phone? And I would say thank you so much. Just Okay, I don’t. Um, but the question I always get is, whoa, how do you have a 22 year old? And because I was young, I was 16 years old when when I had mark. And that was the beginning, it was the beginning of me having to really wrestle with what does it mean to continue to pursue my dreams when people are telling me that, that Okay, now you’re gonna you know, you got to be a stay at home mom, you know, the best you can do as welfare, maybe you can, you know, maybe you can do community college, like there were those kind of things that were being spoken in my life. And I made a decision. When I had mark, that I was I was holding him in my arms. And I was looking at a hospital room window. And I said to him, I made a promise to him that I wasn’t going to give up on my dreams. And I think that’s counterintuitive as as women, because I also say that when I gave birth to mark, I also gave birth to this thing called guilt. And I just instantly felt that everything I did was wrong. And I was guilty of all the things but for some reason, I, you know, I helped him and my faith, it’s my faith, it was this, it was the Spirit of the Lord, like on me, and I just had him in my arms. And I was like, I’m not going to give up on my dreams. And I’m going to do it for him. Right? Like, I promise you, this little precious Boy, that you will see the fruit, you will watch. And through that, then maybe you’ll never make excuses, either. Or when life gets hard, you’ll be able to go well my mom did it. You know, my mom made it through, like if she did, I can do it too, kind of thing. And that’s where it started. That’s where all of the that’s where all of it started. And it was a bumpy road. Um, I ended up going to college, despite what everybody said is stuck it to him. That, that let me prove you wrong thing was in there, you know, and thank the Lord. Like, I was really blessed with that grit, I think and I just really kind of hone that in. And I graduated from college, I got a degree in communications. And then I decided that I didn’t want a job, I was going to become an entrepreneur. That was smart, right? And then I stumbled along the way you know, so my background is a mix of traditional business. Um, y’all at one point at a cleaning business, I was an I was the cleaner, right? Um, and then learned how to scale that cut my teeth and that went from cleaning houses to commercial deals, large scale commercial deals, and then turn that into Hey, if I can do that, what if I really pursued the calling on on my life? So then I went and opened up the fashion business because that’s, that’s what what girls do, I guess? Um, so then I was like, Okay, I’m gonna do retail and I went into retail and I did all of that. And through that I found a partnership with other women who were wanting to start their things too. So part of the boutique was like this. breeding ground for what I called makers, all of my fellow sister friends who wanted to sell earrings or wanting to do like, whatever, you know, make t shirts or whatever. And through that long story short, a partnership with the Small Business Administration helping women to start grow, launch their dreams, their things. And I’m saying this, it’s really fast forward, because I don’t want to bog you down with the gritty details. But the point is that, you know, I started there holding a baby with the odds against me. And the only dream that was crystal clear was that this was not going to be our future, something else, there was something else there was more for us. And then that just rolled in one thing to another, you know, over 22 years later now later, because he’s 22. I have had the blessing on the privilege of coming alongside other women and helping them to do very similar things launch grow and start their, their businesses. So Hmm. Long story short.
Real Happy Mom 11:04
Yes, yes. I love it. And one thing you did not mention in that long story short is about your book, the book, Oh, girl, you can do hard things. And I love Love, love that title. And I was just honestly, like, I’m just curious, like, how you been gotten to that point? And what is the story behind that book?
Oh, yeah, that’s good. Um, so how did it get to the point? Well, I work with a beautiful company, consol publishing school, I wrote a book about seven years ago called living in your light. And when I partnered up with Chandler and self publishing school, and came on as one of their coaches, part of the beauty and the, the culture behind all of that is like writing another book. So I started that journey. And I was like, Hey, I wanna write this book. I, there’s something that I want to say, and part of it was asking myself, Well, well, what do I want to say? What do I say all the time? What’s that thing that, you know, when I’m coaching or whatever, what’s always coming out, and it is around the theme of, you can do the hard things and leaning into the hard things. And I’m always telling, telling people, the sisters and the misters, lean into it, if it’s hard, go there. A mentor told me a long time ago, the biggest, the biggest out of the biggest challenges will come your biggest blessing will come your greatest reward. Right? And ultimately, to me, that meant leaning into the hard things. And so when I sat down to write, I would go around in circles about what is it? What is it? What is it and then I got really crystal clear. One day, honestly, my daughter was going through some challenges. She’s now 14. And when I started writing the book, she was entering her 13th, her teens, and the pressure of you know, growing up being a girl in this time with social media, and she’s struggling with her friends and boys and on things. And I thought, What do I want to say to her? What do I want to say to her? So actually, every chapter in the book, um, see it secretly. It’s for all it’s for all the girls. But really, it was. It was what I want to say to Kalia. And so I dedicated the book to her. And, and I, I pored over it, I pored over it. And I just thought, ultimately, through each of the chapters, the thread is, girl. You can do it. You can do it. Yeah. So that’s what it is. Thank you for asking me about the book. Oh, yeah.
Real Happy Mom 13:49
For sure. Yeah, definitely. And, and like I said, I love the title of it. Because that was the first thing that I thought of was, you know, that we can do those hard things and like you said, leaning into it. But I feel like as moms in particular, it’s like, we don’t lean into those big dreams into those big passions. And I was just wondering, after working with so many women, what is the number one thing that you see that holds women back from pursuing their passion or their calling?
Man so good? Hmm.
A theme that I’m I’m gonna be honest, that that comes coming out for me right now in my life. And that I see often is this. Some people call it like imposter syndrome. Right or, and, and so there’s something about that word imposter syndrome that doesn’t quite hit home for me So, so right now, if you could, if you guys can see my face, I’m trying to find the vocabulary, the word that I actually really want to use because it’s not really imposter syndrome. It’s like this. It’s like oftentimes, we are We feel like there’s a calling, right? There’s something that we are supposed to do that is not necessarily aligned with the thing that we are doing right now. And or it’s more of what we are currently doing with with our lives at the moment. It’s either one of those two things. But then the problem is, or the challenge that comes is like, we think that when we are being called to a dream, or when it is something, we’re supposed to do that it was supposed to be pretty, that it’s supposed to be beautiful, and rainbows and the sky is gonna park and like, the Lord Himself is gonna come down and be like, this is what you should do, you know, and you’re gonna go, yes, and like a whole, like, trumpet band is gonna come behind you, and you’re gonna like dance party, to the finish line, right? Surprise sister. Mama, it doesn’t look like that. Oftentimes, what it looks like is you are on the floor, crying your eyeballs out, the kids are hungry. Your husband is upset. or, or, or sitting there with you, you know, I don’t know. But you are in a mess. And you start to come through that mess. And sometimes you’re even in the mess like that. I see this a lot. I see this a lot with with women in particular, they’re in the mess in the fire. And they’re like, Sloane, this is what I’m supposed to do. I’m supposed to help other women, I’m supposed to help other girls, right? Or I’m supposed to whatever. Because I don’t want what I’m going through for somebody else to go through or, or you’ve come through it. And you’ve learned so much. And you’re like, Okay, this is what I’m supposed to do. And yeah, so I think that that that space is messy. It’s, it’s scary. Because it’s vulnerable. And it really is what you’re supposed to do. But unfortunately, it didn’t come in a nice package and a pretty bow. So we have to unpack that a guest that’s what I would say is that the number one thing I hear all the time?
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Yes, yes. I love all of what you said, because I was just thinking about that too. how messy and scary and frustrating and all the things that it can be. And we will oftentimes, like talk ourselves out of it. Like, oh, all of these things are happening. Then this shit and this is this couldn’t be it. This is not what I’m supposed to be doing.
I’m Yes. Totally all. That’s fine. Oh, that’s a roadblock not gonna go
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there. Yeah, totally. That’s my thing is like, Oh, I don’t feel at peace about it. Like, there’s I don’t have kids. Like, I’d be like, Oh, no, no, no, this isn’t that. But I love how you say it. Like, you know, like, we have this vision of what it’s supposed to look like. And it’s not pretty and beautiful. And rainbows. Like you said, it’s hard. And I was just wondering, like, What is one thing that you would tell us moms, if we’re in the middle of it or get ready to go through it? Like, what would you tell us? Like, what can we do like right now when it comes to pursuing that passion? Or that calling?
Oh, God, subscribe to Tommy’s podcast. Thank you get connected with community. Second of all, right? Cuz, cuz I mean, I can give you all the tips on how tos and missing amount or whatever. But the truth is, when I look at, you know, our most successful, let’s say, I’m doing bunny ears here, right? Because everybody’s definition of success is your own. But when I look at a woman that I’ve worked with, that will say like, like, nailed it, this feels successful to me, whatever that is, right? When I really looked at like, when I think right now I’ve got all these nails going on. It’s like this, these beautiful faces popping into my mind right now. What the commonality of their story is, is that they were okay. To not be okay in it. Does that make sense? That what I would say, like, the one thing that I would, that I would say is, is that, um, that sometimes we get caught up in like, what the outcome is going to be like, what that end thing is going to look like and listen, that’s important. Let’s not get, you know, derailed around that like it’s important, but also celebrating all the little things along the way. The tiniest little good things and hiccups and challenges. Um, it’s really important. And the way that we do that the way that we remind ourselves to celebrate the way That we say, hey, okay, I’m not in this by myself, right? Like, sometimes I need to be like, are you like, are you going through this because I’m feeling like, you know, like a certain way about it or whatever, challenges with work hiring people, staff, whatever, funnels, all the things, the way that you do that is to be in community. It’s to be able to say I have people around me that know that, what I’m going through, and they’re, they’re like, it’s okay girl, keep on going. So that would be my biggest thing. Because you know, what, you’ll learn all the tips and the tricks and the how tos and whatnot, and what software to use, and blah, blah, blah, like, you’re gonna get that. But if you can belong somewhere, you can find your people. And at the end of the day, when, when things get hard, because they will get hard. I, you need your family, you need your tribe, of people that are doing the things that you are doing.
Real Happy Mom 20:58
And I love how you talk about community because honestly, I don’t know if I told you, but when I was thinking about 2020, my word for the year was tribe because I wanted to create that community around me because I saw how I was trying to do all the things and be Superwoman. And it wasn’t working. And I kept telling myself, like, I can’t do this by myself. And what really got me was I I’ve said this many times, sorry if you’ve heard this before on the podcast, but I remember having a conversation with a woman and I was telling her, you know, like, we all have the same 24 hours is Beyonce, and she came back with Well, we don’t all have the same team as Beyonce. And I was like, Point taken, because I didn’t realize like the way Beyonce is able to be like humongous if she doesn’t do it by herself. She has people helping her and she has people supporting her. And so I love how you say community because yes, Real Happy Mom tribe is definitely a community that we can definitely support you in helping with those streams. So yes, thank you for setting that up for me. So
yeah, that is so good. I love that. I love that, Tony. It’s so true. It’s like, I imagine the real happy tribe mama group. It’s like when you come into the doors, you can actually take your cape off. Yes. Right. Like put the cape leave the cape at the door. Girls, we do not need to be flying around. Like we’re super, super woman that is like, Oh my gosh, yeah. I love it. So good. Yes,
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yes. Now the other thing that I wanted to talk to you about is, I know a lot of times we get scared by I think our dreams kind of scare us. Like let’s just be real late, because they’re big and humongous, and all the things but I think another thing that we do, as moms in particular, as far as talking ourselves out of things is we make our kids a reason why we can’t get things done. And I wanted you to talk to us about that. Because I know you have some strong feelings about that. Oh, man, I
do I do. Listen, it goes back to that moment where I was holding mark in my arms, right? I could very easily have every reason and it wasn’t excuse and excuse like he wasn’t, you know, having a baby at 16 is a reality. Right? You actually can get you you can they let you out of school early, you know, they put you in a special program like all those things. Right? So I guess that’s to say, I could have used that situation as an excuse. And I think back then I learned that I need to use this as my catapults, like I need to use this as my quantum leap. As opposed to I need to use this circumstance as the fuel that will help us to get to where we need to go. As opposed to the situation that could perpetually keep us there. Okay, so then I took that and you’re right, I do I have I’m getting all sweaty because I do I and I have AC in this place. I’m have strong strong opinions about that. Because I I think and hear me with with an open heart, mom. This is not a conviction situation. Right? This is me saying from my heart to yours, your child is your it this the situation that you’re in or whatever is going on. Let that not be an excuse for you to stop pursuing the dreams and the calling on your life. Let it be that quantum leap for you do it together. I remember Tony I’ll tell you a quick story. So about three or four years ago, I was in the world of network marketing, top producer flying all over the place, maybe leaving you know, Hawaii once or twice a month. For this island girl, that was a lot. And I remember getting some, some mom shame around that. Right? Like, I’m just gonna say it because, um, whatever in laws, you know, judging, being a little judgy being like, oh, wow, you know, getting on all these trips, like, you know, and I’m like, I’m working, like I am working. Right. And, and I remember thinking because at the time, my soon to be ex husband, you know, was a military went away a lot and did a whole bunch of stuff. But there wasn’t that, that, that thing around there, right? There wasn’t that kind of judgment around that because apparently my profession, apparently it was an option. I don’t know, I’m being sarcastic ladies. Um, but I’m saying this because there was almost like this thing of me. Or people like expecting that because you’re a mom. And you are also juggling the pursuit, that somehow that’s, that’s not okay. Or, you know, it’s easier for you to say, Hey, I can’t because I’ve got you know, my kids or Hey, I can’t because whatever. I just want to say that. That’s not fair. And it’s okay. For you, as a mom, to be fully in love with your business. Fully in love with even just being being a stay at home mom, it’s okay for you to be fully passionate about the secret book that you want to write or that blog you want to start right? or whatever it is. It’s okay. And, and we have to at some point, say it’s okay for me to love those things. And to also love my children 100%. It’s okay. I do not have to choose between the two. This is not a which one do I get to choose today? No, honey, you get to have them both. And if somebody tells you otherwise, you just come to this podcast and say Sloan said Tony said so you get to have them both, you do not need to choose. And when that choice is off the table, you no longer get to fall back on the excuse of Oh, but I’m just come on. Oh, but I need to whatever. The thing is, you fill in the blank. Okay.
Okay. Glad we can have that talk.
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Yes, no, that was so good. Because I was just thinking about all the things. You know, one thing that I think is funny, I don’t know, I’m gonna share this. I know, my big mouth. But, um, my husband’s African. And I feel like even though he says that he’s not like the macho, like, African guy. Like he has his moments where he can be loved macho. And it’s funny to me, because like, you know, like culturally, like, even in the US, like, culturally, like, you would see, like the man working. And it’s okay for the woman to stay home. But our roles are completely flip flop. So I even get, like you said the guilt too. Because like, you know, I’m working full time. I also am in the reserves, and then I’m doing this too. So of course, I get a lot of flack, like, oh, you’re spending time with your kids like, boo, they gotta eat, right? Like, don’t make me feel bad because I have to work. Like, I love how you just gave us all permission. And now we have the freedom to do the things that we enjoy, do the things that we love our children, so thank you, thank you.
You’re so welcome. I am the champion of that. I will tell you, I will leave that club, sign me up, I will leave that club. And I will be there with like, like, banging people back. Um, because you just said it. Like we have every right as women to provide and to work just as hard. Right? Like, I will go toe to toe with any man woman on defy like what I’m trying to be like, politically. I will go toe to toe. Because any like we we we have that permission. That’s what it is. We have that permission. I love that. Can I just add one thing because I love this conversation. And I hope this speaks to somebody. ambition is not a dirty word. Okay, ambition is not a dirty word. You can be ambitious, sister. You can be as ambitious and as angry and as on fire as any buddy out there. And I think that actually comes from us being moms. It comes from our room, right like we created life. We are fierce. And because of that. And you know, and for you moms out there that maybe you didn’t create that life but you’re raising that life. Like, that is unique, it is special. And we bring that same passion and fire to our things, our businesses, like whatever it is, right. So I feel like what happens and what you’re kind of talking about, because I’ve experienced that as well. And I actually hear that a lot. I hear that a lot. And I’m coaching a woman right now, but it’s the exact same thing. You know why? It’s okay. I guess. I mean, all of that, like, Listen, it’s okay, your fire, your ambition is so good. And the world needs that. And our girls need to see that it’s okay. For them to be fierce and powerful, and strong, and creative, and nurturing, and, and instinctual. All of those things, like that’s the beauty of us as women. Right? So, um, I also say this, I am not a feminist. I’m a humanist. But you better believe I believe in the power of the woman’s roar. And I’m all about a really fun girl gang. So that so I would just say all of that. Um, so yeah, anyways, don’t even cut me off because I can go on and on. But listen, ambition is not a dirty word.
Real Happy Mom 31:24
Yes, yes. I love that. And I’m so glad you pointed that out, too. And so usually I end the conversation with give us a word of encouragement, or a motivational cook, but you’ve been given us all sorts of encouragement.
Shopping all of them.
Real Happy Mom 31:38
Yes. So I don’t know if you have anything else that you wanted to share before we signed off. But yes, I want to give you that opportunity.
Thank you. You know, I will say this last call of the day, on something I’m working on right now, which is today. This is all that I am.
And I’m okay with that.
Real Happy Mom 32:02
I like that. Very simple to the point. I love it. NASA, we have had so much fun talking and sharing all of this. I just want you to share with us where we can find you online if we want to connect with you because this is something we don’t want to just do just here on the podcast. We want to say
oh my gosh, oh my gosh, yes. Hit me up on the Instagram. That has been my favorite platform as of recently at Miss Sloane Kimi and you can also drop by the website, Sloane keaney.com we just got a fresh new facelift. It’s fabulous. And it’s fun. It’s fierce. Thanks, Tony. Thank you so much. I adore you You are so special. Thank you are like you are just this amazing light in the world. And I’m so glad that I can call you my friend now. I’m so so excited and to be a part of the happy mama tribe that I’m there. I can’t wait to hang out and get some folks.
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Yes, yes, definitely. And thank you so much for coming on. This was awesome. I appreciate it. Now that does it for this episode of the Real Happy Mom podcast to find the links in the show notes make sure you head over to Real Happy Mom comm slash 106. And there you’ll find all of the things that were mentioned in this episode as well as the link to the five days to wrap him on challenge make sure you go ahead and get signed up because we’ve already started and I don’t want you to miss out on it. Now. If you if you’ve enjoyed this episode, you can do a couple of things. One, you can send me a voice message by going to Real Happy Mom comm slash 106 scroll down and you’ll see a box where you can go ahead and leave a voice note. You can send me a message tell me how much you’ve enjoyed this episode, or something that you want to hear on this episode that we haven’t already talked about. You can also let me know that you’ve loved this episode by leaving a rating and review on Apple podcasts. If you don’t listen to Apple podcasts that is okay. Go ahead and screenshot this episode, wherever you’re listening to and put it in your Insta story so that we can share the message about Real Happy Mom to other working moms who need to hear this. Now that does it for this episode. I’ll be back again for another full episode next week. Make sure you join me then, and I will see you there. Take care and we’ll add solo